Hi Dr. Bill,
I saw the post about "yogurt" and wanted to tell you that 
			my ASL 
				tutor agrees that there is no formal sign for yogurt, which is 
				really unusual, because there's been such a health food 
				explosion, and yogurt is now as common and popular as bananas 
				for babies. 
Suzie Fairweather, my family's ASL tutor, says that one of the 
				preschool teachers at the BC Family Hearing Society has 
				developed the following sign, which I thought I'd pass on to 
				you.
Hold the non-dominant hand in a cup shape, as yogurt mostly 
				comes in little cups, and have the dominant hand in the "Y" 
				shape. Dip the thumb of the Y into the top of the cup and bring 
				it to the mouth. 
...We discovered that our younger daughter (one year old next 
				week) is profoundly deaf when she was nine months old. We're 
				being tested for Waardenburg Syndrome. Tasha is not signing much 
				yet, but our preschooler, Fiona, signs like a house on fire, and 
				I'm using sign language in "story-times" here at work. ...
~ Marion
 
			YOGURT (version)
			


			
			
 
  
	 
			
			Notes:
			
			In a message dated 3/16/2017 6:32:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, an 
			ASL instructor writes:
			
			I'm laughing .. . .you said you would 'like to see me teach.' Well . 
			. .if you did you might see me teach the sign for 'yogurt.' And I 
			would tell the students, "The sign for yogurt is similar to the sign 
			for 'soup' however for yogurt we use a Y handshape (instead of the U 
			handshape instead of the U handshape that we use when we sign 
			'soup.') 
			
			And you would be sitting in your seat and you would shudder and 
			cringe and inhaled-through-your-teeth and you'd be thinking . .'NO 
			girl. That's NOT how we sign yogurt. We spell it!"
			 
			[name removed to protect 
			her privacy]
			
			RESPONSE:
			
			Hello ________!
			 
			Heh. In the "old days" I used to promote the 
			signing of YOGURT as sticking a thumb into a C hand and bringing it 
			to the mouth. Then a fifth generation native Deaf ASL activist (and 
			friend, heh) told me "no" in no uncertain terms. 
			
			That was quite a few years back.
			
			Since I am an ASL instructor by vocation (passion aside -- how I 
			"feed" my family is/was dependent on getting Hearing people to sign. 
			Thus my bias toward sign choices leaned toward signs which my 
			Hearing students were/are capable of producing. Back then I still 
			hadn't wrapped my mind around the fact that since we Deaf can spell 
			certain things faster and easier than we can sign them -- the proper 
			and right expression of those (specific / particular) concepts is 
			therefore via fingerspelling -- not signing. 
			
			Which is to say, as an ASL instructor I had a propensity (a "bias" 
			actually) toward accepting signed versions of concepts over spelled 
			versions of concepts since my Hearing students could articulate the 
			signed versions but struggled with the spelled versions. 
			
			Eventually I realized this bias was affecting my teaching an vowed 
			to "repent" and face the issue head on and be bold about the fact 
			that fingerspelling is an integral part of ASL and that students 
			need to either master that skill or go take Spanish instead. 
			
			Regardless, times change, language evolves, folks start eating 
			yogurt, parents want a sign to use with their babies, yadda, yadda, 
			well-meaning people start inventing signs. Some signs get 
			criticized, some stick and spread. If enough signers in the 
			community adopt the new sign that sign and continue using it for 
			everyday life interactions over an extended period of time -- that 
			sign is then no longer "wrong" but rather it has become a new 
			"standard." 
			
			Now I'm going to take a risk here and predict the following version 
			will spread: 
			
			YOGURT: Hold up a "Y" hand as if to sign YELLOW (palm somewhat 
			facing back, thumb somewhat pointing up -- both at very relaxed 
			angles) but do not rotate it. Instead bend the interphalangeal joint 
			of the thumb twice. [Prediction date: 2017/03/17]
			
			Why do I predict that version will spread?
			Simple: It is easier than spelling YOGURT. 
			
			Time will tell.
			
			
			Update: 8/25/2021:
			More and more people have adopted the Y-hand eat from C-hand version 
			of yogurt.  It is a fairly common and defensible sign at this 
			point in time.
 
			
			
			Note:
			
		
			Years ago I saw from time to time (but I do not recommend) an initialized version of the sign 
			
ICE-CREAM done with a 
			"Y" handshape instead of an "S" handshape. 
			Most Deaf adult signers consider that to be an example of signed 
			English. I think it is just an overreaching attempt at 
			initialization that misses the mark.  My 
			concern with an initialized ("Y") version of ICE-CREAM  is that it conflicts with an 
advanced variation of "
MISTAKE" 
			that means "to make repeated errors." - Bill
 
	 
			
 
			
			
 
			
			
		
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